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This interview is part of a series about three football games known as the Hairy Bacon Bowl, which occurred during the early 1970s. Participants included University of Colorado students who identified with hippie culture and/or anti-war sentiment, versus campus and Boulder police officers. The games were seen as a way to address tensions between the two groups. The idea for the games originated with the Program Council office at CU. Phil Lobel became involved with Program Council in 1973 and then led the program from 1976 to 1979. He touches on the concept of the Hairy Bacon Bowl, but by the time he was Program Council director, the days of the Hairy Bacon Bowl competitions were almost over - he describes the change in culture at that time from the tense, seriousness of anti-war protests to a light-hearted one exemplified by the practice of streaking. Much of the interview focuses on the transformation of Program Council into one of the most successful student organizations of its kind in the country (culminating in Program Council winning the 1978 Billboard Magazine College Talent Buyer of the Year Award) and how Mr. Lobel's work for Program Council paved the way to his long career in entertainment public relations. He provides a fascinating window into the workings of Program Council and into the music scene of the 1970s.