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This interview was recorded at the Rocky Mountain Peace and Justice Center during a weekend of activities commemorating the 1978 demonstrations at the Rocky Flats nuclear weapons plant. Daniel Ellsberg is asked to explain his personal knowledge of U.S. military policy in general, and nuclear weapons in particular, which came to bear on his participation in the Rocky Flats sustained civil disobedience. Ellsberg describes his fears of nuclear proliferation, the neutron bomb, and the possibility of an accident that would have planet-threatening repercussions. He becomes emotional discussing the death of a close friend - attributed to radiation exposure - and correlates that loss with what transpired in 1978's year-long occupation of the train tracks leading into Rocky Flats. Much of the second half of this recording explores Ellsberg's recollection of how the blockade moved from a short symbolic action to one of extended protest.

This interview takes place during a walk from Boulder to Rocky Flats on the occasion of the 20th anniversary of the 1978 demonstrations. Patrick Malone was well known for his participation in those activities, especially his construction of a teepee that became a symbol of the movement to halt weapons production at Rocky Flats. Patrick talks about his history and how he got involved with Rocky Flats. He describes the relationship with security guards, human blockade strategies, and the process of getting arrested. He reflects on what was accomplished in 1978, the personal meaning, and his current work in conflict resolution.