People: Niels Schonbeck (chemistry professor at Metropolitan State College and member of the Rocky Flats Health Advisory Panel), Bini Abbott (community representative on Health Advisory Panel), Bob Bistline (Rocky Flats scientist), Ken Lichtenstein (physician), Ellen Mangione (Colorado Health Department), Ed Martell (scientist from NCAR), Hazel O'Leary (Secretary of Department of Energy), Jan Pilcher (community activist against fluidized bed incinerator) -- Places: Metropolitan State College, Rocky Flats nuclear weapons plant -- Subjects: personal background (father's escape from Nazi Germany, conscientious objection to Vietnam War), "Star Wars", teaching course on Nuclear Dilemmas, fluidized bed incinerator proposal at Rocky Flats, soil sampling at Rocky Flats by Ed Martell and other work he did, Rocky Flats Environmental Monitoring Council (established by the Governor), Health Advisory Panel, long-term health effects from Rocky Flats, 903 Pad, Grand Jury investigation, degree of contamination in the soil, committee members' reactions, development of course on nuclear weapons for students at Metropolitan, Rocky Flats as the first nuclear clean-up site, implications of "national security", non-democratic secrecy in development of nuclear weapons, Comprehensive Test Ban, implications of its rejection, Radionuclide Soil Action Level Oversight Panel, discussion of humanity's technological prowess, questions for the future.